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Chinese School - From Beijing Chinese School traffice might be hidden in the start of

semester rush, if it exists.

Also, my impression is that the speakers are at times "overpronouncing" the tones. It sounds
unnatural to me. Chenpv on the other hand sounds natural.

I'd be interested in feedback, perhaps on a separate thread devoted to David and Helen bashing?

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Also, surely if you just made the site your homepage you could all stop messing around with
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Yes, me. Browsers seem to update favicons only when they feel like it though. Hit CTRL+F5, and if
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Ok, I can see why this would be an issue for anyone trying to use only icons in bookmarks and so
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Hmmm, seems you are right. Not sure where that came from.

Well, what are you going to do with your 256 pixels?

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youpii -

The Palm Treo 750 is less than 2.000RMB on taobao now.
Would you buy one? I heard the phone part is very unreliable.
The vendors fit it with a Chinese version of Windows mobile. Does Microsoft provide a Chinese IME
for Windows mobile?
Some vendors also provide Windows Mobile 6, how much RAM is available in such a system?
Last, is Windows mobile using Unicode? For example can I open a Unicode document with both Chinese
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I just repurchased a 680 for 2170 yesterday.

The thing is about taobao is you want to make sure you are buying a NEW phone from a legitimate
seller and so I really doubt the 750 is below 2000.

In terms of the 680 the phone app was not very good at all until they came out with a firmware
update (which was like 3 years after the original) and then the phone app was actually decent.
They are not near as good as a Nokia phone but lets face it, you are not buying a Palm with a
phone as the most important thing, you want all the apps that can go on the palm and a bonus of
the phone.

youpii -

I wouldn't believe one seller but most of the sellers have that price
http://search1.taobao.com/browse/151...0-all-1512.htm

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Speak Chinese - The Warlords 投名狀 - Page 5 - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Chinese Culture > Films and Television

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monto

As the movie goes, the three of the heroes made an oath together giving their names.

Actually they made the oath by each killing an innocent person (this part does not appear in the
mainland version). The film-makers were obviously inspired by the "Water Margin" when they decided
to include the "ceremony" in the film and have the film called by this name. This baidu link has
the story -> http://baike.baidu.com/view/841531.htm

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《水浒传》第十一回“朱贵水亭施号箭 林冲雪夜上梁山”写王伦要求林冲�
��一个人头来当见面礼。

林冲道:“小人一身犯了死罪,因此来投入伙,何故相疑?”王伦道:“既�
��如此,你若真心入伙,把一个‘投名状’来。”林冲便道:“小人颇识几�
�,乞纸笔来便写。”朱贵笑道:“教头你错了。但凡好汉们入伙,须要纳投
名状,是教你下山去杀得一个人,将头献纳,他便无疑心,这个便谓之投名�
��。”林冲道:“这事也不难,林冲便下山去等,只怕没人过。”王伦道:�
�与你三日限。若三日内有投名状来,便容你入伙;若三日内没时,只得休怪
。”林冲应承了,自回房中宿歇,闷闷不已。

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monto -

Thanks for skylee, you enlighten me much.
However, even in the song dynasty, 投名状 did not mean as 王伦 meant. 林冲 was an educated
person then, his understanding of the term should be regarded as standard.

skylee -

Given the story, I would think that the film makers chose the name according to what Wang Lun
meant instead of what Lin Chong thought, standard or non-standard, right or wrong.

BTW, I've found an English outline of the story of "Water Margin" here ->
http://poisonpie.com/words/others/so...t/outline.html

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Chapter 11.

Chai Jin rescues Lin Chong and writes a letter of introduction for him to the bandits at Liangshan
Marsh in Jizhou, headed by Wang Lun “White-Clad Scholar”, Du Qian “Skyscraper”, and Song
Wan “Guardian of the Clouds”. En route, Chai Jin meets Zhu Gui “Dry-Land Crocodile”,who
leads him to the bandits. Wang Lun recognizes Lin Chong’s merit and is afraid of admitting him
lest he lose power to him. He demands a “membership certificate”, a head of a man, from Lin
Chong in three days.

For three days, Lin Chong hides out in the woods, but finds no solitary man to kill. He only
manages to steal the luggage of Yang Zhi the “Blue-Faced Beast”.

floatingmoon -

It's based on an old story 刺馬, 3 brothers, betrayal, revenge.

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Saturday, June 7, 2008

Chinese School - Translating sentences from Pinyin to English. - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Chinese Tattoos, Chinese Names and Quick Translations

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My girlfriend has taken a liking to speaking a single Mandarin phrase of affection to me and then
challenging me to figure it out. The problem I seem to find is that all the translators out there
want you to use actual Chinese letters for input, and she isn't giving me that =\

Does anyone know of a reliable website, or other means, perhaps purchasing an actual dictionary,
to translate Pinyin directly into English? When one begins to learn Chinese/Pinyin, what do they
use to learn simple things like this?

The online sources I've found so far output several possible and vastly different definitions for
a single word, and can't produce a result if I input the entire phrase.

While I hopefully have someone's attention, the phrase I'm trying to translate this time is:
"Wan an qing ai de". I'd be grateful if anyone could tell me what that means.

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skylee -

It's "Good night, my dear". In traditinal Chinese characters it is "晚安,親愛的". In
simplified Chinese it is "晚安,亲爱的".

PS - the correct pinyin romanisation should be "Wan an qin ai de".

renzhe -

Figuring things from pinyin only can be tricky because the tones are usually not written, and
because the words/phrases are usually not grouped together. Then, the number of possible
interpretations can explode.

In this example, "Wan an" and "qin ai de" form meaningful blocks, which you can find in basically
any dictionary online.

Quote:

Does anyone know of a reliable website, or other means, perhaps purchasing an actual dictionary,
to translate Pinyin directly into English? When one begins to learn Chinese/Pinyin, what do they
use to learn simple things like this?

The best way is to separate the sentence into words (called ci), and translate that using a
dictionary, online or not.

Figuring out which characters belong together can be tricky when you're starting, you build this
knowledge through experience. You may have to group them randomly till something coherent comes
out. It's the same in every language -- just entering individual or incorrectly grouped syllables
into a dictionary won't accomplish anything.

Lu -

The dictionary that comes to mind is DeFrancis' ABC Dictionary, that lists words by pinyin. But to
use that you'd still need some basic knowledge of Chinese. Apart from asking here, your best
source is your girlfriend herself.

roddy -

If you type the pinyin into google.cn (not .com) it will give you suggested phrases below. You
could then run those through an online dictionary - links to be found here. It won't work one
hundred percent, so if it tells you something offensive, don't get mad at the girlfriend.

tooironic -

Just download a Chinese input program like Google Pinyin or Sugou (hell, even use Windows's crappy
one) and start typing the pinyin. Then, voila, the characters will come up magically before your
eyes!

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flameproof -

Anybody doing LingQ?

What you think about it? I signed up for the free trial, but haven't tried anything yet.

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Their Chinese capabilities are very crude at this point. I saw in one of their newsletters that
the Chinese module wasn't intended to be used, but they accidentally made it accessible and then
decided to leave it as a beta test. For a beta test, I can't find any status page nor a
bug/suggestion form. I don't know much, other than just trying to test the limits of it.

The application doesn't do any word segmenting. So any text you work with will need to be already
broken into words, so that its vocabulary tools will work the same as it does for other languages.
Of course, Chinese word identification is a challenge for any software application, so I'm not too
surprised it's not implemented. If you do have a text that has spaces between the words, it makes
the experience somewhat artificial, as real Chinese is just a long string of unbroken characters.

They have an optimistic approach to tagging unknown words: Anything you haven't flagged as unknown
when you sign off on the item is assumed to be known. This is a good approach if you are at an
advanced level and have a low percentage of unknowns. But as a lower level learner, I would tend
toward adding half the words (literally) in the text to my flashcards, in my brick wall approach
to learning vocabulary. It's tedious enough to do this that I only played around a little with the
system before giving up. I have other programs that can generate vocabulary lists from a text.
Unfortunately there is no easy way to import it into their database. Oh, and there are only fields
for the definition and an example phrase, no pinyin.

I do like their idea of maintaining study material in personal collections, and tracking study
time for listening and reading. I have all my web texts saved into folders, and I rely on memory
to know what I have already seen. However, I have been studying long enough that I've gotten used
to my own favorite flashcard software and dictionaries, so I will stick with that.

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Friday, June 6, 2008

Chinese Class - Business Name Translation - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Chinese Tattoos, Chinese Names and Quick Translations

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Sonnie -

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum - I begin studying Mandarin in Taiwan in June, and I am very
excited about it.

Can someone please do a quick translation for me.

Does this say 'Phoenix International Enterprises' ?

菲尼克斯国际企业

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monto -

Yes, I believe.

Lu -

Yes, it does. Feinikesi is a transliteration (not a translation) of Phoenix. If you mean the city,
I suppose this one is better; if you mean the bird, and if this is your company, you might
consider changing it to 凤凰, which is Chinese for phoenix, and sounds better than Feinikesi.

Sonnie -

Ok great, I am looking for the chinese word for phoenix for my business name. So my business name
would be.

凤凰国际企业
(Phoenix International Enterprises)

Is that correct?

Thank you so much for your help, I could have made a big mistake and lost a lot of money with web
programming, business cards, etc...

Kind regards
Sonnie.

yonglin -

Hmm... just a bit curious: how are you planning on doing business in China w/o knowing any
Chinese? I suppose that's the purpose of translating the name of your business into Chinese...?!

Sonnie -

I am moving to Taiwan in two weeks to begin my Mandarin studies. My business will be based in
Sydney Australia but I will source my products from Taiwan. I understand that finding vendors
maybe a little difficult at first with very little knowledge of the language, but I will employ
the services of others and use English where I can in the meantime.

Thank you for your interest yonglin...

Lu -

If your business will do business with Taiwan, the name should be in traditional characters rather
than in simplified, so 鳳凰國際企業.
But wait for a native speaker to come by and say if this name is ok.

zhxlier -

One thing to consider: 凤凰/鳳凰 must be a trademark of numerous companies already, as it is a
common word.

In mainland China, 凤凰 is an old famous bicycle brand. It's getting less dominant now; but for
people older than 30, they would link 凤凰 to bicycle instantly.

Better check out if there's any famous 鳳凰 brand in Taiwan.

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Chinese language - 獅子座 - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Reading and Writing

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Hi everyone!! A few days ago, I saw a guy on the train with a tattoo of 獅子座 and was
wondering what this meant. Does it refer to the constellation Leo?

Thanks

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Yes. 獅子座 = Leo. It's totally of Western.

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Thursday, June 5, 2008

Learn mandarin - How to modify "edit entry" interface? - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Chinese Computing and Technology > ZDT Flashcards Forum

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Hi,
I am considering using ZDT as my one and only note taking tool in Chinese class. In order to do
that I need to be able to input example sentences along with the word translations in every
flashcard. Ideally, each entry would contain a text area that could optionnally be filled and
would be saved along with the rest of the card.

I guess I can develop this myself but I don't really know where to start. I took a look at the
developer's guide and it seems doable, even though my java is a bit rusty. Could someone please
point me in the right direction? (I don't expect this feature to be implemented in the base
version of ZDT, this shouldprobably take the form of a plugin).

If I can't do it I guess I'll ressort to the usual pen and paper plugin...

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This is a female name and I can't figure out what the middle character is. In romanization it's
spelled as Lam Chan Yan (not quite sure on the middle character, but it sounds like zhan, jan, or
I think it sounds like the word lightning in Cantonese, I could be wrong about this) and I'm
pretty sure the first and last characters look like this: 林_訢. Can someone here let me know
what the middle character look like?

Also, I was talking with someone else and she told me that the female name, 李嘉欣 (I think I
got it right), is a common name. Any truth to this?

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嘉欣 is a pretty common name.

林_欣: sorry can't think of a character for chan for a girl in a name.

Lu -

Who is the person with this name? Where did you come across this name, what did this person do,
perhaps we can find her somewhere online.
If it's someone you know rather than someone public, the most straightforward way of finding out
is asking her how her name is written

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Wednesday, June 4, 2008

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In May I'll be a fresh graduate with a BS in electrical engineering. I have one last summer before
I head off to grad school, and thought I'd like to go to China and teach English. I've been to
China a couple times before and knew some people who got informal gigs teaching English at
培训中心 type places - and they weren't even native speakers of English! (Czechs, Slovakians,
French). So, how easy would it be for me, an American Chinese who speaks English natively and
Chinese pretty well, to get a gig for two or three months teaching English? Am I limited to
培训中心 or could I try to get a job at a legitimate school? I don't have any TESL type
certification. I'd really love to work up in Xinjiang or some other out-of-the-way region,
actually. I would just be going over on a tourist visa unless I could get someone to sponsor me
for a different type of visa.

Thanks!

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So, how easy would it be for me, an American Chinese who speaks English natively and Chinese
pretty well, to get a gig for two or three months teaching English?

I'd say it's unlikely you'll get a paid job for such a short period of time. Six month and more
often a full year (actually 10 months in many cases due to holidays) is the normal contract
length. It costs the schools allot in time, paperwork, and money to arrange work visa and so it's
unlikely (but not impossible) that they will do this for someone coming for as little as two
months.

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Am I limited to 培训中心 or could I try to get a job at a legitimate school? I don't have any
TESL type certification.

If you have finished you degree and have the certificate then you need not worry about TESL or
similar. You degree will be sufficient to get a work visa. If you come for a longer contract then
you could work at any type of school form kindergarten through to University and either public or
private. However, during the summer, you'll probably be limited to private schools as the public
schools will be on holiday.

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I'd really love to work up in Xinjiang or some other out-of-the-way region, actually. I would just
be going over on a tourist visa unless I could get someone to sponsor me for a different type of
visa.

It's illegal to work on a tourist visa. Not that this will stop a school hiring you, many schools
hire people illegally. However, you must be aware of problems you may encounter before making your
decision. There are jobs around in the out of reach places. They are often hungry for workers but
can't afford to pay the rates you'd get in a big city. I have done some teaching in Inner Mongolia
which was very rewarding.

I have a query that may be related to your question. I wonder if anyone else can answer. If the
poster above came to do volunteer work (no pay). What visa would be required then?

roddy -

That time of year you are quite likely to end up working in a summer camp, which might be a
reasonable way of putting some money in the bank if you are already in China, but they don't have
much of a reputation for being fun - you're likely to be stuck on site at some school or
university, quite possibly out of town, and expected to spend at least some of your non-teaching
hours on 'activities' with the students. Still, if you actually want to teach English, that's
probably your best bet for the summer. Just make sure you know what the arrangements are.

liuzhou -

Quote:

If the poster above came to do volunteer work (no pay). What visa would be required then?

I looked into this a few years ago. The PSB informed me that it is illegal to work on a tourist
visa. Work is work irrespective if paid or not.

Not sure about their interpretation of the law (although it coincides with UK law) and I'm not
about to pursue it through the courts!

(Didn't apply to me anyway. Just doing a friend a favour.)

Pravit -

Thanks for the responses. I'm not really worried about making money; I just want to offset the
costs of coming to China for another summer. Perhaps it's the wrong reason to be teaching
English...

Quote:

However, you must be aware of problems you may encounter before making your decision. There are
jobs around in the out of reach places. They are often hungry for workers but can't afford to pay
the rates you'd get in a big city. I have done some teaching in Inner Mongolia which was very
rewarding.

I'd really like to live in an out of the way place, actually. I wouldn't mind losing the cost of
my plane tickets as long as I could live off of the teaching wages. How do you find such jobs? Do
you just go up there and ask around? What sort of problems might you run into?

Thanks for the summer camp suggestion, roddy, I'll look into it.

self-taught-mba -

My understanding is that volunteering falls into the language and "cultural exchange category"
which is a valid reason for a tourist visa.

We had a student who comes to China to do volunteer teaching at a government school and they gave
him an L visa also.

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I barely know any Chinese and cannot figure out the meaning of this sentences although i've
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哪裡可怕啊
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Nice day!

哪裡可怕啊 = How can it be scary?

都挡不住 = Unable to block

Hope that helps,
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Tuesday, June 3, 2008

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我們正好到屏東去玩,便順道去拜訪他。
My translation: At that time, we were vacationing in Pingdong, so it was convenient for us to
visit him.

does 便 here mean "it is convenient" or "so that" or both? how else can 便 be used? can you
please supply an example sentence?

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便 is 就的意思

David Huo -

It means consequntly or thereforeYour translation only gave the judgment that it was convenient to
do something, but didn’t give the result, which is, the writer and his/her gang actually paid a
visit to “him”.

Moreover, “便” does not mean convenient here, it means “consequently” or “therefore”.

At that time, we were vacationing in Pingdong, so we took the chance to pay him a visit.

Under such meaning, the word is not often used in spoken Chinese, where it is always replaced by
“就”

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謝謝!

magudo -

便 could be 於是(so)

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Backstory: I opened my kitchen cabinet today to discover that a ginger root I bought two months
ago and then forgotten had sprouted. In the dark. In a dry plastic bag. I'm now very fond of it.
I'm going to pot it. Being the kind of dork that needs to name every single living thing, I
decided that my ginger root needed a good Chinese name (Japanese is overdone). I scoured the web
and came up with Changchang -- cute, feminine, not too serious, apparently means "flourishing." I
like that! But I had no idea how to go about finding the right characters for it. This was the
first Chinese-language forum that appeared in my search, so I ask you: Changchang in Chinese
characters?

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Hi, I reckon "长长“ shall be the right character. I like it too. As u said, it does have a
meaning just right for a Sprouted Ginger root, hehe.

Nepenthe -

Thank you, Lyfey! I like the way that looks.

I forgot to ask in my original post: I'm assuming the "a" in "Chang" is not pronounced like the
"a" in "cat," since that sound doesn't exist in most languages. Can anyone give me an
approximation? A little weird, I know, but I'm really just curious now.

imron -

Here is a recording of someone saying 长 from this table of chinese pronunciation.

skylee -

I am thinking ... "长长" can be "chang chang" (long long), "zhang zhang" (grow grow), "zhang
chang" (grow long), or "chang zhang" (keep growing) ...

rootfool -

Quote:

I am thinking ... "长长" can be "chang chang" (long long), "zhang zhang" (grow grow), "zhang
chang" (grow long), or "chang zhang" (keep growing) ...

hmm.I think "zhang chang" and "chang zhang" may more proper.

here is a puzzle about this.

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Conversational Chinese 301

Paperback, 198 pages
ISBN10: 7561914032
ISBN13:
Publication Date: 2005-7
Annotation language: English
Language skill: Speaking, Integrated
Level: Beginner
Category: Chinese Textbooks for Adults - Integrated Textbooks
Medium: Paper

Conversational Chinese 301 was first published in 1990. Its revised edition, included in the
series of "BLCU choice textbook for learners overseas", was published in 1998. Conversational
Chinese 301 has several different versions, including versions annotated in English, in French, in
Japanese, and in Korean etc., and the sales of all these versions added up to over 300,000 copies.
It is regarded as the most popular Chinese textbooks for foreigners all over the world at present.
The third edition of Conversational Chinese 301 is divided into two volumes: Volume 1 and Volume
2. Versions of the third edition annotated in different languages will be published successively
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See here (http://www. From Beijing Chinese School.com/showthread.php?t=18265).

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I recently graduated and I was hoping you could help me with research that I am doing for a new
community website that will be available in East Asia. The website will be designed for
college-age computer programmers/developers to discuss current events, new technologies, and just
about anything they want to discuss. I wanted to know any connotations or meanings that Chinese
people might get from the English word "spoke." We are using spoke as in hub and spoke to connect
people. What is the translation? What would a Chinese person think of when they heard the word
"spoke" or �the spoke.� In slang what does �spoke� mean? Especially, do you think any negative
connotations could be derived from the sound, spelling, or translation of the word? Any help would
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It's too awkward. The Chinese simply won't get it despite the fact that more than half the country
rides bikes to work. :?
Instead of 'spoke', try "fresh" instead. ("xian" if you are going to use the Chinese character,
otherwise avoid the pinyin and just use the English word "Fresh") This word is used in Chinese
slang much as it is in America and has an appropriate connotation for your web site's theme. :idea:
You always have to start from the Chinese perspective when you play around with brand names and
corresponding translations. What sounds cool in English often makes no sense whatsoever when
translated into Chinese. Try something that sounds cool or clever in Chinese first and then see
what the English looks like and make modifications from there.

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How long does it take for posts to show up? When am I not considered a new member?

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Monday, May 26, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - Boeing to continue investment in China

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Boeing to continue investment in China

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July 18 - Boeing will continue its investment in China in the next two
decades to ensure its status as a major provider of commercial airplanes
to China, the company's senior official said in an interview with Xinhua
on Monday.
In Boeing's 2006 Current Market Outlook released last Wednesday, the U.S.
plane maker projects a need for approximately 27,200 new commercial
airplanes worldwide, and the Asia-Pacific region is believed to be the
largest market, Larry Dickenson, the senior vice president of sales for
Boeing Commercial Airplanes told Xinhua at the Farnborough International
Airshow in southern England.
"Our advantages are, if we have advantages... that we have been working
in China for 34 years," Dickenson said, adding the Boeing has helped
train about 15,000 Chinese professionals in maintenance, piloting and
executive training.
"We look at China as a strategic partner force. And its airline has
matured, and continues to grow primarily with Boeing equipment and Boeing
training. So we are going to work with China as a partner," Dickenson
said.
"We believe that as our products become more and more competitive, there
is no reason to believe that we should not be, continue to be the major
provider of airplanes to China in the future," said Dickenson.
When asked about whether Boeing is considering building an assembly line
in China just like its competitor Airbus, Dickenson said Boeing was
probably not going to change its strategy towards China, and it would
continue to invest in China in the areas of spare parts manufacturing,
maintenance, repair and air traffic control.

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Sunday, May 25, 2008

Chinese Lesson - Huge trade surplus exposed imbalance of domestic economy

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Chinanews, July 12 - China's trade surplus rose to a monthly record high
of $14.5 billion in June after reaching $13 billion in May, up 49% from
the corresponding period of the last year.
Experts said the major reason for the huge trade surplus is the imbalance
of domestic demand -- the unmatching of domestic saving and investment
structure in China. The flowing of productive elements across the
countries in the background of the globalisition is another important
reason.
Mei Xinyu, an expert at the Institute of International Economic and Trade
Cooperation of the Ministry of Commerce, said that the country's trade
surplus was the result of the macro-economy trend and international
production transfer of the United States, the European Union and other
major trade partners. Both the US and EU's macro-economies have witnessed
an upward trend, while their international production has kept
transfering to China and their products mix kept upgrading. It thus has
inevitably driven China's export growth.
The Chinese government has moved to reduce the huge trade surplus. The
country is quickening the adjustment of economic structure, changing the
growth mode of foreign trade and encouraging domestic consumption. It has
revised several export policies and provided preferential credit for
certain imported goods to encourage the companies' importing.
But it is difficult to make domestic demand the major driving force of
the economic growth and reduce the trade surplus in a short period. Mei
said there were some conflicts between the effort of curbing the trade
surplus and the economic growth and between the sufficient employment and
the goal of improving the industrial structure.
The increase of investments by wide margins will make the situation of
excessive production capability become worse, while consumption increase
should depend on the improvement of the income allocation pattern and the
social security system--both of which, however, can not be achieved
overnight.

          ��China cannot reduce trade surplus on its own

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Saturday, May 24, 2008

Chinese language - How long can DINK continue to be childless?

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Chinanews, Beijing, June 30 - China's DINK class (Double Income No Kids)
began more than twenty years ago. Just when people are beginning to
acknowledge and accept the existence of DINK families, DINKs themselves
began to regret their choices and one can observe the phenomenon of
"post-35 childbearing"��DINK women after passing 35 realizing that if
they were to postpone having children they might never become mothers. Or
they realize that without children in their midst, their flat marital
life would drift towards isolated quietude and therefore they gave up
their DINK lifestyle.
Chunmei, 43 years old, is professional manager with a son 2 years and six
months old. She said she originally chose to be a DINK. When she
accidentally became pregnant and was told that she might never conceive
again if she chose to abort the fetus, she made the decision to have the
child.
Wen Yu, 41 years old, is free-lance writer with a two-year old daughter.
She said she chose DINK to begin with but realized her choice required
much courage because many people could not understand her decision and
were talking behind her back. After toughing it for eight years she could
not hold on and also realized if she persisted she would never have a
chance to choose to bring a new life to this world. She gave up and gave
in.
The emergence in China of the phenomenon of a return of DINK family to
tradition is caused by different psychological frame of mind induced by
different age groups. Accelerated societal competition made it easy for
people to feel hatred and anxiety, resulting in loss of psychological
balance. Only a triangular family model can form stability, can build a
platform to bear and neutralize these negative psychological feelings. A
healthy, complete and happy family is man's heaven and woman's Eden.

          ��Chinese-style DINK couple in potential trouble

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Friday, May 23, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - Labor cost rise in China will ignite a worldwide inflation

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Labor cost rise in China will ignite a worldwide inflation

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Chinanews, Beijing, Jun. 20 �CMorgan Stanley chief economist Xie Guozhong
recently predicted that China would become a source country to start the
next round of global inflation, which would be signified by a major
commodity price hike resulting from rising labor cost in China and higher
production cost pushed up by China��s implementation of a stricter
environmental protection standard.
The rising production cost will soon make Walmart, the world��s largest
retailer, frown. As China is now implementing stricter environmental
protection standards and the country is brewing a salary raise for
workers, production cost will soon rise and the 7-dollar woolen sweater
will become a thing of the past.
Expensive labor cost, stricter environmental protection standards and the
rise of raw materials prices will make the inflation bubble become bigger
and bigger in China. As the production cost rises in China, commodity
price for products such as toys, clothes, electronics and other exported
products will soon rise inevitably.
As Chinese government tries to boost domestic consumption by raising
workers�� salaries, the production cost of export goods in
labor-intensive industries, such as textiles, will soon go up. Export
goods in labor-intensive industries account for 30% of China��s total
export. The price of export goods will also be raised as China implements
a stricter environmental protection standard, which in turn will push up
the price of some chemical goods.
It is expected that China��s production cost rise will push up the U.S.
inflation rate by 0.5 percentage point, and the global inflation rate by
0.7 percentage point every year.
In fact, price hike has already taken place in many Asian countries now.
The latest statistics released by the U.S. Department of Labor shows that
last May, the average imported commodity price from Asia and the Pacific
region (including China) already rose by 0.2 percentage point.
Statistics from the Economic Intelligence Unit (EIU), with its
headquarters based in London, shows that in 2005, the average labor cost
in China already climbed to 1.36 US dollars per hour, up 72% from 2001.
EIU predicts that such labor cost will keep rising in the future, and by
2010, it will be twice the present figure, although by then, the minimum
labor cost in China will still be 4 percentage points lower than that in
the United States.
At present, local governments in at least five provinces in China say
that they plan to raise the minimum salary for workers. Large cities like
Shanghai and Guangzhou also plan to increase the minimum salary. This
shows that pay raise has already started in China.

          ��China will not see inflation this year

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Thursday, May 22, 2008

Chinese language - Trains running on Qinghai-Tibet Rail Line ready for use

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Trains running on Qinghai-Tibet Rail Line ready for use

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Chinanews, Qingdao, Jun. 14 �C Trains that are made for running on the
Qinghai-Tibet Rail Line were released from their manufacturer, the CSR
Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock Co., Ltd. on Tuesday. After a trial
use, the 169 trains will start working on July 1st when the line is
formally kicked off.
As the world's highest and longest railway line, the Qinghai-Tibet
Railway runs through places characterized with less oxygen, frozen soil,
strong ultraviolet radiation, and constant weather changes. The tough
geographical conditions on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau require that trains
running on it should also have some special functions not seen in
passenger trains that run on plains.
Compared with trains on plains, the trains designed to run on plateaus
involve many technology innovations. To counter the discomfort that
people experience when traveling on the plateau, the trains are installed
with two kinds of oxygen supplying systems that can provide additional
oxygen either through a ventilation system, that can raise the oxygen
density to 23.5-25% in the cabin, or through individual masks that have a
higher 40-45% oxygen density.
To protect the ecological environment on the plateau, the trains boast
��zero garbage disposal��. All the rubbish and waste water on board will
be collected and discharged together.
Meanwhile, the trains are decorated with patterns typically seen in
Tibetan art and culture. Colors such as Tibetan yellow and Tibetan red
are frequently used to show the trains' distinctive regional feature.
Insiders say that production of these trains signifies that China's
locomotive production has climbed to a new level.

          ��Staff of Qinghai-Tibet Railway trained for better service
          ��Qinghai-Tibet Railway stations to start operation
          ��No news yet for the sales of tickets for trains that will run
on the Qinghai-Tibet Railway
          ��Tibetan antelopes adapted to the channel cross Qinghai-Tibet
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          ��Qinghai-Tibet Rail to bring mineral water to Beijing
          ��
          ��Police petrol on horses in Qinghai-Tibet Plateau
          ��Qinghai-Tibet Railway to bring more visitors to Tibet
          ��Qinghai-Tibet railway not exclusive for foreigners
          ��Five-star trains to run on Qinghai-Tibet Railway

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Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Chinese School - Shanghai's novel sculptures

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Shanghai's novel sculptures

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Nowadays art creation in Shanghai is novel, unique and eye-catching.
Pictured: a new urban sculpture cluster named "led by a yellow lady" was
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Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - Shanghai held emergency disposal exercise of river pollution

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Shanghai held emergency disposal exercise of river pollution

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-06 17:53:01

Maritime affairs and environmental protection vessels that took part in
the "2006 emergency disposal exercise of sudden pollution in the Huangpu
River" held a vowing ceremony to preserve the water environment on June
5, and were well equipped to leave for their mission on the Huangpu
River, the mother river for Shanghai.

June 5th, 2006 was the 35th World Environment Day, and "2006 emergency
disposal exercise of sudden pollution in the Huangpu River" was held on
the river. No.310 pollutant cleaning ship dispatched by the Shanghai
Dong'an Offshore Oil-spill Emergency Centre exercised in an emergency oil
pollutant control. The ship simulated to put 200-meter-long rubber fence
made of floaters to enclose the oil to put the oil-spill accident under
control and prevent the pollutant from spreading.

June 5th, 2006 was the 35th World Environment Day, and "2006 emergency
disposal exercise of sudden pollution in the Huangpu River" was held on
the river. Pictured: clean boat that succeeded in the mission

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Monday, May 19, 2008

Learn Chinese online - Character figures of Tianjin's snack shops

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Character figures of Tianjin's snack shops

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Photo shows painted figures in front of the traditional snack shops shot
on May 24, 2006. A group of painted character figures that highlighted
traditional snack shops in Tianjin showed up at the door of a fried dough
twist shop on Nanshi Food Street of the city. They have appealed to
numerous citizens and tourists to stay and appreciate for their vivid
images and diversified expressions.

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